OK, confession time. I actually voted for George Bush in 2000. Does that tinge my view of the following? I’d like to think not, but probably. I would like to add that I alleviate myself of responsibility for electing him though, on the grounds that Gore carried Illinois by a wide margin and thus my vote did not electorally contribute to him in any way. Is that rationalization? Yes. Yes it is. Does it help me sleep better at night? Yes. Yes it does.
So I watched the HBO film Recount the other night. For those poor souls without HBO and who haven’t heard of it, it’s a dramatization of the 2000 election in Florida and the days of madness that followed. Coming at the end of the Bush presidency, I think this is the right time for this film to have been made. The 36-days of confusion that occurred are of historic significance to the U.S. and is (hopefully) something we’ll never have to live through again. Had this film been made any sooner, the country wouldn’t have been ready to reflect on it. Any later and we might have collectively started to forget about it. Overall, the events depicted appear to be largely accurate, as they are approximately how I remember them. However, from listening to some of the filmmaker’s thoughts, it appears that they believed they were making a non-partisan film and I would have to say that in that regard they came up short. First of all, the story is told largely from the perspective of Al Gore’s chief legal counsel (played by Kevin Spacey). This inherently makes him the protagonist and, as the underdog, all of cinematic expectations lead us to want to root for him. That’s not by itself a bad thing, but it deals a blow to the claim of neutrality. Also, while I think they do a generally fair job of portraying each camp’s legal teams as simply doing whatever it takes to win within the confines of the law, where I think the film gets out of focus is in the portraying of the lower-level supporters of each candidate. If the film is to be believed, all Gore supporters wanted was to ensure that the intent of the voters was recognized, and all Bush supporters wanted was to stifle any and all efforts to give Gore any additional votes. While I’m quite sure there are lots of people that fall into those two categories, on balance I think Gore supporters weren’t quite as noble as they like to think they were, and Bush supporters weren’t quite so devious.
If there is one thing that is apparent and, I believe, true about the film is that the U.S. Supreme Court decision was exceedingly . . .odd. In case your memory of the events is a bit hazy, the Florida Supreme Court, on December 8th, ordered manual recounts in counties with a large number of undervotes. Then on December 9th the U.S. Supreme Court issued an injunction stopping the recount and set a hearing for December 11th. Then on December 12th they ruled that the recounts hadn’t been valid because different counties were using different standards in the recount, and that now there was no time to complete the recount under new standards. So basically, they said, “We really don’t know who actually won, but we can’t trust these new numbers and they’re incomplete anyway, and now there’s no time left so we have to go with what the previous result was.” But perhaps the oddest part of the decision was that it was "limited to the present circumstances", meaning that it could never be cited as precedent. The film indicates that this is the first time the US Supreme Court has ever done that; I can neither confirm nor deny that.
My belief is that, under the way that the system was set up, you ultimately couldn’t call that election any other way. But the system should have worked better. I am reminded of the 2002 baseball All-Star game (stay with me here), which ended in a tie in the 11th inning after both teams ran out of relief pitchers. The fact that it ended in a tie didn’t really bother me. After all, it was an exhibition game (this was the year before the winner determined home-field advantage for the World Series). What bothered me was the 20-minute stoppage of play before the 11th inning while league officials met to discuss what to do. It was as if it had never occurred to any of them that this was a possibility, despite the fact that 5 games per week end up in extra innings. A lot of baseball games are close, so it seems like there probably should have been some guidelines in place. Well, some elections are really close, so it kind of seems like there should have been some guidelines in place there too. What are the standards for manually recounting ballots? How should you deal with pregnant or dimpled chads? I don’t know, but I know this: the day after the election is not the time to hold a debate about it. In a stunning coincidence, people’s opinion about those line up almost exactly with the position of the candidate they support.
Now, to bring this into the current realm, once you have standards you need to stick to them! Last year, in a stunning display of stupidity that only the Democrats can produce, the DNC voted to strip Michigan and Florida of their convention delegates for moving their primaries up. In October, Hillary Clinton said of Michigan “It's clear, this election they're having is not going to count for anything.” Well, apparently something happened between October and April to make it less clear, because suddenly she was champion of the people of those two states and decided to do everything in her power to make sure they counted. When the DNC ended up allowing half the states delegates to be represented, and further awarded Clinton slightly more delegates in Michigan it was the Clinton camp that was outraged. But the group that should have been outraged was Obama (which, of course, he would have been had it actually mattered). What is the point of establishing the rules and standards if you’re just going to change them “when it counts”? I can’t believe that any Democrat who complains about Bush's supposed trampling on the Bill of Rights during his presidency could possibly support Clinton in this type of ridiculous logic. With the Patriot Act and things like warrantless wire-tapping, our president has basically said that sometimes the security of the nation is more important than an individual’s rights when the country is in danger. I disagree. I think that when the country is in danger, that’s when our civil rights are the most important. Similarly, it is during close elections where it is most important to adhere strictly to our established standards and guidelines. At the end of the day, the main goal in counting ballots is objectivity. Do I believe that the butterfly ballot was confusing? Yes, but so what? There was a process in place to approve it 30-days prior to the election and neither party filed a complaint. Hence, that argument holds no water. Don’t like the ballot? Then change it next time.
Someone could astutely point out that I voted for Bush and Obama, so of course I support these two outcomes. I would argue that I’m also an accountant, and as such hold a particular affinity for the absolute nature of numbers and recognize the need for rules and standards to clarify the subjective.
One final note on the 2000 election that I encountered. Being from Wikipedia, take it with a grain of salt. I did find it interesting though:
The National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago, sponsored by a consortium of major U.S. news organizations, conducted a Florida Ballot Project comprehensive review of all ballots uncounted (by machine) in the Florida 2000 presidential election, both undervotes and overvotes. The media reported the results of the study during the week after November 12, 2001. The results of the study showed that had the limited county by county recounts requested by the Gore team been completed, Bush would still have been the winner of the election. The recount also showed that had there been a full statewide recount of all counties, Al Gore would have received more votes than Bush. However, neither campaign requested such a total statewide recount, and it was never formally carried out.
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John:
When are they going to change that stupid rule in baseball that the League that wins the All Star game gets home-field advantage in the World Series? This could potentially cause a problem for the Cubs. What do you plan to do about this? Good post by the way. Who played Jeb in that film?
Wow John, I'm going to have to correct you on a bunch of things here.
(I'll also state that I voted for Bush in 2000, so my vote didn't matter much either.)
First, good point on the timing of this film. It was perfect to coincide with the Bush presidency as well as oddly prophetic with the FL/MI debacle.
This film is hardly nonpartisan. 3 or 4 times they show back to back scenes of how both campaigns are dealing with the same obstacle, and the Gore campaign is noble and trying to do the right thing, and the Bush campaign uses some morally questionable methods. To put these things back to back in direct comparison gives them to the viewer as good vs. evil.
One thing you fail to mention is that the timing of the Supreme Court ruling was allegedly done to ensure that the recounts would not have time to finish.
Also, the 'one time only' court ruling was almost criminal. I looked it up in a few places after I watched the movie, and according to internet sources that was truely the first time the Supreme Court made a ruling like that.
Also, you should have known better as it was talked about in the film, but the plural of 'chad' is 'chad.'
There are plenty of things that experts never saw coming. Take a current events story with the toilet breaking on the International Space Station. Much like the election it took 4 or 5 things happening together to create the crisis. The problem in Florida was that there were 4 or 5 concurrent failures. The butterfly ballot, the hanging/dimpled chad, the incompetence of the Secretary of State, the disagreements of the FL/US Supremes, etc... There are redundent systems and checks and balances, but when there are multiple failures these things tend to break down. (and f-baseball. they should have played out the game with position players pitching.)
They didn't let in half the delagates from FL by the by, they were going to seat ALL of the delegates with a half vote each.
Of the atrocities of the Bush government you listed, you left out suspending Habeus Corpus. (Aside: anyone read about Kucinich spending 5 hours reading off the 35 articles of impeachment he is bringing against the current administration? He did it on Monday night. No? No one read about that? Shocking that no one has any trust in the mainstream media anymore. You'd think with an approval rating of ~25% someone would want to talk about 5 hours of impeachment talk.)
Anyway, back to Florida. You ahve to give the rules commitee a little slack on giving them their delegates back. The decision to move up their primary was made by Republicans.
And they compromised on their own rules because it is Michigan for Christ's sake. It is a swing state that is crucial. No need to alienate voters. Letting Senator Clinton spend a month on TV trying to change the metrics of the election from delagates, so superdelagates, to the popular vote, to the popular vote including states that dont count...was freaking insane. The DNC knew the election was going to be VERY close a long time before the rules meeting, they should have made a decision a month earlier.
You talked about freedoms, and there is a quote from Ben Franklin that I like:
“Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”
Also, if you watched through the credits at the end of Recount (or maybe right before the credits) they specifically state that various news outlets paid for an independent recount of Florida (WAY after the election was over) and that Bush won by a couple hundred votes. I don't know if that meant they recounted the whole state or just specific districts, but there you have it.
Well, I'm not sure how much of that is correcting me.
OK, as far as chad is concerned I am gramatically guilty. One point for you.
Yes, you are technically right about FL/MI being all delegates with half a vote each. For all intents and purposes, though, it's the same as half the delegates with a full vote. Semantics.
Yes, the mistakes of the Bush administration were severely truncated because that's not the point I was trying to make and I didn't want this to devolve into a discussion about that.
As for the recount, I understand that it is not possible to prepare for every contingency. But punch-ballots weren't invented yesterday and it's not as if this was the first or second recount to ever occur. Setting standards for chad as well as over/under voting in a manual recount doesn't seem like something that was unforeseeable, it seems rather basic. If you had just had those, most of the rest wouldn't have mattered, or at least would have been severely marginalized.
As for this current election yes, I am all in favor of cutting FL a break; but the time to do that was last October. Once they decided to strip them of their delegates (which I've already said was an atrocious decision) then that has to be the end of it. Otherwise, everything's just up for grabs. We can say hey, I don't like superdelegates so let's just get rid of them. Or I think we should just go with the popular vote now. Or you know what, California is so diverse that it represents the country pretty well, so let's just use the results from there. Either election rules mean
something or they don't. And when you change them mid-election, they don't.
And the recount after the credits you mentioned was the one that my last quote was about.
Fair enough.
Also, people have to remember that when talking about the primaries, there isn't LAW to go by. The parties are private organizations and can change their rules whenever they want.
And by those rules FL and MI deserved to be stripped of delegates. There are primary rules, the rules were broke, there were clear penalties for breaking the rules, the penalties were enforced by Howard Dean.
And while I just argued that it was the Republican controlled state House/Senate/Governor in FL that moved the primary up you can see here that the decision had overwhelming bipartisan support.
For the lazy, the state House voted unanimously at 118-0 and the state Senate voted 37-2. I don't know Florida demographics, but I imagine there are at least a few Democrats that could have voted against the bill, if only for symbolic reasons.
They had rules and (somewhat) clearly defined punishments. They broke the rules. They were punished. I don't know how that constitutes an 'atrotious' decision.
I don't know about any of the other stuff, but there is a system in place to help prevent UNDERvoting, at least in Illinois. When using a paper ballot when it gets scanned into the machine it comes up as an undervote and an election official SHOULD ask you if you meant to undervote. Two things about this: it is just a general ballot undervote, so you may have undervoted for President AND assistant undersecretary for library periodical purchases, when you really only meant to undervote for assistant undersecretary for library periodical purchases. Breaking down every undervote for every voter gets into some serious privacy issues though.
(I think I have undervoted in every single election since I turned 18. I do my best to spend a couple hours researching platforms, but with so many elections it is tough. Especially the local elections where they are running for unknown positions.)
I screwed up that link.
This should work better.
The decisions was atrocious for exactly the reasons you brought up in the previous post. They are both big states that are important for the general election and telling them "we'll pick our candidate without you" was not a good message to send. They should have just penalized them by taking away half of their delegates from the start, which is what the RNC did. That way at least all the candidates would have been on both ballots and everyone would have campaigned there. I know it's a primary and thus the parties can do anything they want, but that certainly doesn't preclude me from saying their decision was a bad one.
Yes, there are a lot of states that have standards for under/over voting as well as dealing with chad. It was even widely pointed out that guidelines in Bush's home state of Texas said that dimpled and hanging chad counted, since they represented an intent to vote for a candidate. That makes it all the more mindblowing that FL hadn't previously considered the issue, and I bet there are still states that don't have any guidelines for it.
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